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<v ->You've got somebody who is being photographed</v>

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by this mechanical process,

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which shows them in different positions

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of their head, their face, their body,

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or whatever it is, and therefore in a sense,

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shape-shifting to some degree.

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But they're not always the same person.

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They don't always have the same ideas, values, attitudes,

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or whatever, feelings, or whatever it is.

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Let me move these round,

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little spools.

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Little piece of paper around it, glued around it.

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We take that off,

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put that back in,

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run the film under that first roller there.

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That's the thing that senses whether it's filming or not.

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Turn it around just a sec,

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so we can run that through to the middle of the reel.

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Shut the back, makes a click,

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and then wind on

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until you feel a little click again.

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And there we are. That's the first frame.

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Put it back on the tripod.

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And there we are, ready to go.

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We might try a multiple exposure portrait, Paul,

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much as we assume Deakin would've done it,

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my assumption would be that Deakin

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was actually using a tripod for this.

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You are then gonna get some idea of what's gonna happen

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by the movement of the head or the body

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or whatever it is the subject.

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There are very few with blurs in the portrait.

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The only one I felt that perhaps that wasn't the case,

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it looks like the camera is probably being held steady

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and he's taken two images handheld.

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What I'm gonna do is take a first exposure,

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and then a second, and then a third.

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So what we need to do is to take our metre reading again.

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If we were Deakin, we'd take our metre reading.

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And we see, yeah, it hasn't changed.

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Again, it's about an eighth of a second at 5.6.

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Now, then you have to think about what the film is doing.

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Okay?

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So when you are taking the exposure,

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the first of the three exposures,

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if we're going to do a three part multiple exposure,

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you need to break down the exposures into their parts.

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They'll make one full exposure.

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You've then got to take basically a creative decision.

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Do I want to have the multiple exposure

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with one dominant image

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and then a couple of lighter ones,

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which almost give it like a semi ghost-like effect?

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Or do I want all three to be more or less at the same level?

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We've metered at an eighth of a second,

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but that will be for a single image.

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So if we did three exposures at a 30th of a second,

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broadly speaking,

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we're going to end up with one exposure at

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effectively an eighth of a second.

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I'm gonna set that to 5.6 to give myself a little bit

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of depth of field, and to an eighth of a second.

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Now it's possible we're gonna get a little bit of movement,

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but actually that's not too much of a worry.

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Deakin working in the daylight studio,

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which I think he probably was judging

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by a lot of the photographs that have made of this sort,

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he's got quite a lot of light coming down on the subject.

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And he's got reflectors as well to reflect in

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the sorts of effects he was doing.

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He probably would also have probably

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slightly overdeveloped the film.

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In other words, the film has a speed,

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a certain sensitivity to light,

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and he's assuming it has about half the sensitivity

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that is stated on the box.

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The reason for that is that you get more detail then

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into the negative, and then when you print it,

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you can get what people call a punchier negative.

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Which is more contrasty,

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more sort of sharper look to it.

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And he's gonna probably ask the subject

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to look into the lower of the two lenses on the Rolleiflex.

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That's the taking lens.

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The other one is the focusing lens.

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So the first one.

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(camera clicking)

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Right, now what we need to do is

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to push the little serrated wheel

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at the bottom of the crank handle here

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just round like that.

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And it smooths very easily,

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goes right the way around, the film doesn't wind on,

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it stays exactly where it is in the camera,

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and it corks the shutter for another exposure.

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So if you can move back to where you were before,

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but now look over here.

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All right, now we're going to do

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exactly the same thing again.

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And then go on three, there we are.

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There we are, it goes around there like that, there.

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Okay, now which way did you look last time? That way.

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So you need to look the other way.

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That's it. Perfect.

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Okay, so that's our three part multiple exposure.

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<v ->Up close.</v>
<v ->Up close, up close.</v>

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So the process is actually quite long-winded.

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That implies certain things actually,

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I think about what Deakin is doing,

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that he's working with people essentially

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that he either knows quite well

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and are patient, are willing to put up with this.

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People also that are interested in the idea

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of messing around with the image of playing games

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and seeing what chance brings in

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and this sort of thing as well.

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<v Paul>Yeah, it struck me,</v>

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it's not something the subject would be unaware of.

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They would be aware that you're doing something different

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to the other shots, the regular shots,

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because you would move in a different way

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and would be paying attention to the mechanics

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of the camera in a different way.

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<v Peter>I think it's a very good point,</v>

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and one I hadn't really thought about quite so much before,

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but what it involves as well is that sort of complicity

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between the subject and the photographer,

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which in a strange sort of way

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isn't that you get from Deakin's portraits.

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Deakin's portraits tend to be sort of hard, controlled,

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almost forensic sort of photographs of people.

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And you can see at the time

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that they were not pretty pictures.

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They're not portraits designed to-

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<v ->Flatter.</v>
<v ->Flatter, exactly.</v>

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Or impress the subject.

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But what he's doing here with this is

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he's obviously playing with people

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that he knows he can play with

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and who want to play with him.

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It may be that there's something relevant there

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in the choice of subjects.

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I mean none of the vogue portraits

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as far as I know are double, triple exposures,

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multiple exposures of any sort.

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In a sense, what inverted comments,

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you might say the private portraits.

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There's only certain people that he felt

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that he could do this with.

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Or possibly if we take the Bacon angle into account here

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that Bacon would've encouraged him to do this

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or wanted him to do this

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because he knew that Deakin could get this effect

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that Bacon was also looking at.

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Deakin actually is very good at these sorts of things

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and knows how to make the image look rather

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sort of mysterious.

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What I also want to do is one

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with possibly a dominant exposure.

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So you get a slight ghosting effect,

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which is clear that Deakin is doing that.

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It's not obvious to me

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that he's always intending that effect.

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I mean there is an element

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of the surrealist idea of chance I think entering in here,

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but it's also not impossible that there's a mistake.

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Oh, I forgot to change the shutter speed setting

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or something like that.

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So we're gonna do two, we're gonna do two profiles now.

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Number one.

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(camera clicking)

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Gonna have to go again because

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I've made the classic mistake.

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<v ->You wound up.</v>
<v ->I wound on,</v>

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which is a very easy thing to do

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because if you're using a Rolleiflex all the time,

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it becomes to second nature.

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Click, roll, click.

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<v Paul>So it's not just what you make yourself do,</v>

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it's you have to make yourself not do.

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<v ->Exactly, it's a very carefully calibrated process.</v>

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Okay, number one, right,

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now, go back to the double exposure.

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Sit.

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So we want a sort of slight ghosting effect.

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(camera clicking)

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Okay, and we're building up exposure here at the same time.

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Each time we open the lens,

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laying a little bit more light in here.

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So the negative itself at each exposure is gonna get denser.

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The other aspect of it, which I think is quite interesting,

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is that these sessions are actually quite long.

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So if he's got five or six of these,

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but there's potentially one per roll though.

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So the photo session will move at normal speed,

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but then it would be slowed up I suppose

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at whatever point he decided to do the double.

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And what he possibly did was to play about

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with it at the end of the roll

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or possibly at the beginning of the roll.

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Deakin doesn't strike me as a person

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who's interested in putting his sitter at ease.

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So playing games isn't sort of what he's doing

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to get them into the mood, I don't think.

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He's interested in expression basically.

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Very, very few of his subjects

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you meet anything close to a smile, ever.

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He's very much one of these people I think

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that wants to see the face as some sort of signifier

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of the character of the person.

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And therefore, expression in a sense to Deakin

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is probably anathema.

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There are very few portraits where the subject looks happy

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or amused or anything like that,

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or even sad for that matter.

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They sometimes look that they're sort of fed up

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with what's going on,

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but I think that's gonna be what he wanted.

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(camera clanking)

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Okay, so we're back to an eighth of a second here.

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So.

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That's it. That's great.

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That's perfect. That's great.

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That's absolutely great. Okay.

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(camera clicking)

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See it's actually quite easy to do this as well.

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It's not difficult.

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<v ->It takes a bit of-</v>
<v ->You have to think to do it.</v>

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See, one of the things I also have to do,

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which is quite complicated, is I have to remember

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what's in the top of that picture.

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<v Paul>Do you have a grid on the viewfinder there?</v>

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<v ->You have a grid on the viewfinder.</v>

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You could mark this out.

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Now I think he would not want to do that in terms

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of what he knew about the ideas that are coming through

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through the 1930s about photography

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and about chance and all of these sorts of things.

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He's not gonna be interested in doing that.

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He wants those accidental effects to some degree.

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He wants a little bit of control over them,

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but probably not too much.

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What I want you to do is to lift your head.

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No, don't, don't, no, it's okay, it's all right.

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Look, look.

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Possibly just, yeah, relax a little bit. Yeah.

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And there, look straight ahead, I think.

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(camera clicking)

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There are other images where Deakin took

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photographing people in front of a mirror,

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so this kind of positioning

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and playing with both the action of light

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and mechanical process of the camera

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kind of seems to be something that he did.

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You're gonna sit there or something like that,

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looking into, no, looking into the mirror.

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You're looking in the mirror, aren't you?

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<v Paul>I've never seen the one he's done.</v>

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<v ->Let's see all the ones he's done.</v>

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<v ->It's a mirror on a-</v>
<v ->Yeah, yeah, see.</v>

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Yeah, so parting is that side.

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So there seem to be two with that side.

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That's interesting.

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Basically two sets of double exposures.

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One is done in the mirror.

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I've gotta get you, hang on, yeah,

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you need to be just about here facing the window.

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Okay, you can come along

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because we've got plenty of height here.

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What I've got to do is work out

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how I'm gonna do this

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because we need a lot of depth of field.

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So at that point, we need about three and a quarter feet.

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And the other way,

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we need seven feet.

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I think we need F22. Get that.

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Yep, we're going to need.

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Now what's the hyperfocal distance?

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<v ->Hyperfocal?</v>
<v ->Yes, this is what we need.</v>

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<v ->Is that something to do with the infinite?</v>

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<v ->No, what it is is the position</v>

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between three and a half feet and seven feet

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where three and a half feet

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and seven feet are equally in focus.

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I'm gonna do a double exposure.

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A slight problem is...

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I think you're actually slightly too high.

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I'll sit down and you'll see,

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it's easier if you look

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and you can see what the problem is.

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Okay.

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See, there's a lot of extraneous information.

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In that picture,

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he's used the sort of, there's a much bigger mirror.

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It's filling up the whole of the wall

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in his picture, isn't it?

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<v ->You could come forward-</v>
<v ->I could come forward.</v>

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Yeah, I could be in that bit.

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I don't think it's gonna make a huge amount of difference.

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<v ->No it doesn't.</v>

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It's because it's not a big-

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<v ->We can do a fringe</v>

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so we all we need is a big (indistinct)

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<v ->Let me go lower.</v>

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<v ->Can we kill the light?</v>

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Okay, now what I'm doing is

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I've got it set up half a second.

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Right.

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Number one, and very steady.

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(camera clicking)

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You're gonna do number two in a second.

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Okay. Okay, that's great.

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(camera clicking)

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Right, that's that roll.
<v ->Cool.</v>

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What I've kept noticing is the amount

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of calculating.

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<v Peter>Yeah, it's not an easy process</v>

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because you've got lots of variables

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to take into account here.

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One is this thing about the fact

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that you are adding exposure to the film.

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So you need to start with what's the exposure

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you expect to get.

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And then you've got this other complication

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which is about,

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well, do I give one of those exposures less time

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so it's less dense on the negative,

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therefore darker in the finished print?

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You've got variables going in two directions.

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And then there's the other thing about

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where am I putting the subject?

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And then we've got this one where we're trying to mirror

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where we've got the other problem is

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we're talking about huge distance

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we've got to cover in terms of the lens

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and focusing on it.

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Now it would be much better on a smaller camera

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because the depth of field

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is much greater on those than on this.

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The longer the lens, the less depth of field you've got.

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So you've got all of those variables going on as well.

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What I like about them is that they are so mechanical,

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it's a bore and a nuisance at certain times

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because if you run out of film, you run out of film.

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But you know, the wonderful thing about film is

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what you take on that camera

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is a physical trace of the fact

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that you and I and John were in the same room together,

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who I know always used to say about photography

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that it was about putting your foot in the door

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so chance could get inside as it were the image.

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I think that possibly was

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what was in Deakin's mind as well.

